> There is no risk involved in the failure to obtain actionable
> intelligence in a criminal justice case ...
There is no risk that this thread is about criminal justice!
> As I already said, the only choice in a criminal justice case ...
... is completely unrelated to this thread.
> If you want my opinion ...
I usually don't, but:
> I think that intelligence obtained through torture of any kind
> is basically garbage - not just useless but counterproductive,
> as the informants have every incentive to "confess" regardless
> of the truth function of that "confession."
Yes, that is the supposition I'm referencing here:
>> Michael wasn't suggesting waterboarding for punishment; he
>> was suggesting that it be used to find the truth: whether
>> waterboarding can really be expected to produce actionable
>> intelligence. There's a suspicion that it cannot; but
>> there's an assertion by Cheney that it can.
Dick Cheney has claimed that He Knows Better and that your opinion, in this case, is wrong.
All Michael is saying is that there's a simple way to test who is right.
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This is the absolute last time I'm going to painstakingly explain a funny joke to you.
/jordan