[lbo-talk] One or two flawed historical analogies (was Re: Stratfor: Western Misconceptions Meet Iranian Reality)

Itamar Shtull-Trauring itamar at itamarst.org
Tue Jun 16 06:33:15 PDT 2009


On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 23:50 -0700, Chris Doss wrote:
> If Russia were Weimar, it would be in a a deep trough after years of
> economic hardship, instead of having had one of the world's fastest
> growth rates from 1999-2008.

So the 1990s economic collapse is completely irrelevant to the comparison? The two may well be completely different, but that wasn't exactly a minor economic downturn.


> It would also have a strong, powerful communist movement opposed by a
> strong, powerful fascist movement, as opposed to Zyuganov and some
> skinheads, with paramilitaries from both organizations fighting in the
> streets. It would also be largely monoethnic and monocultural, which
> is kind of a prerequisite for fascists to come to powers, instead of
> what it is, fantasmagorically multiethnic.
>
> There are practically no similarities.

Except the ones I noted in my original posting, which in fact didn't mention fascism or the economy at all. My point was about political structure and the collapse of their democratic systems: the Weimar police and judicial system, government bureaucracy and most significantly the military were all unchanged from the Imperial regime, and never really accepted the legitimacy of the new regime.



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