[lbo-talk] The zen of marx (was clarification)

Matthias Wasser matthias.wasser at gmail.com
Tue Feb 16 11:34:10 PST 2010


On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Lakshmi Rhone <lakshmirhone at gmail.com>wrote:


>
> But I am interested in the psychological type that claims the spirt of
> Marx but spits
> out appeals to authority (LISTEN TO DAVID HARVEY FOR THIRTY HOURS
> NOW), does not understand what Marx says (treating rent as something
> added on to price, which is the basic error that Marx's analysis was
> meant to expose), and provides one muddled idea after another.
> This kind of Marxism requires psychological analysis, don't you think?
> LR
>

That's not an appeal to authority. What was said was "Marx's theory of value is very complex, and here's a better explanation than I could provide, if you have the time for it, by a one David Harvey," not "according to Doctor of Marxology David Harvey, Marx's theory of value is x, so Marx's theory of value is x." If you have time to LISTEN TO DAVID HARVEY FOR THIRTY HOURS, you'll find that it isn't just thirty hours of "as Doctor of Marxology, I certify that the following things are true..." - he very carefully develops an argument, which is why it takes thirty hours.

Carrol's said much I disagree with and much I just can't comprehend, but he's also said, again and again, that speculating about one's opponents' psychological motivations makes constructive debate impossible. He's right.



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