The change for the better is certainly in doubt, but there seems no case for a change for the worse.
Since people will be required to buy into the new system if they lack other coverage, I'd say there will be pressure to improve its inevitable inadequacies, with public money if necessary. I think that's why the GOP hate hate hates the prospect of the reform. It commits the Gov to perfecting its vehicle for universal access to health insurance.
The inscos don't hate it because they get a piece of the action. I'll repeat a point I made before: under a welfare state, as opposed to social-democracy, the state coopts providers (in this case, insurance companies) into public benefits, gaining political support at the cost of some quality in the result. That's the territory we live in.
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Wojtek S <wsoko52 at gmail.com> wrote:
> RE: As things stand, the boss can always drop one plan for something
> cheaper, and worse, if his employees let him get away with it. What
> is different?
>
> [WS:] But how about his other point that you may still lose your insurance
> when you change jobs? Many corporations have some kind of waiting period
> for new employees .
>
> The way I understand his argument is not that it is Obama's fault but Obama
> is creating false hopes with his "reform" - a point that resonates with me.
>
> Wojtek
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Max Sawicky <sawicky at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> This whole spiel never made any sense. And who the fuck is Deroy
>> Murdock, if not some political hack. The fear apparently is, you are
>> sitting there with employer provided insurance, some alternative shows
>> up (public option, different plan becomes available, either of which
>> are cheaper and crappier), and you get switched to something worse.
>>
>> The terms of your implicit deal with the boss is you get some $$$ and
>> some benefits. Absent some kind of explicit, legally-binding
>> contract, there is no more reason under ObamaCare to arbitrarily
>> reduce your compensation than before. If bosses want some fig leaf
>> they can call health insurance and cram it down their workers'
>> throats, they can do it now.
>>
>> As things stand, the boss can always drop one plan for something
>> cheaper, and worse, if his employees let him get away with it. What
>> is different?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Left-Wing Wacko
>> <leftwingwacko at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > *
>> >
>> http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=OWQ4MDI5ZDU0YjAxNmM5MzEzYzc1NjM0ZDkyNDRlYWE
>> > =*
>> > **
>> > *Yes We Can Lose Our Health Insurance
>> > *Kiss your current coverage goodbye.
>> >
>> > By Deroy Murdock
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