On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Jeffrey Fisher <jeff.jfisher at gmail.com>wrote:
> I'm trying to figure out exactly what this means. Speaking as faculty
> (non-tenure-track at the moment, for the record), I see myself as precisely
> not admin, and, on the other hand, as entirely pro-student . . . at least
> when it comes to students learning something.
>
> And I'll tell you another thing for sure: administration does *not* see
> faculty as administration . . . faculty are simply the enemy: we cost money,
> and we engage students mainly where they least like to be engaged -- namely,
> in classrooms. Also, we surely get more students complaining about what they
> don't like about faculty than about anything else at the school, with the
> possible exception of food services, which are universally loathed pretty
> much at every school I've ever been associated with (whether as student or
> as faculty).
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Chuck Loucks <lbo at hvgreens.org> wrote:
>
>> People
>> on this list are clearly on the Admin/Professor side of the world. I
>> guess I now
>> understand what it was like being around that professor denied tenure in
>> Huntsville
>> who went postal! My perspective is on the student side.
>>
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