[lbo-talk] the new Weekly Worker

Bill Quimby wquimby at embarqmail.com
Mon May 17 11:33:04 PDT 2010


After reading these message I checked the NPA website. Whether anything will come from this is doubtful but there is a recognition of the need for EU-wide action, evidenced in a statement dated April 30 which includes the following ------- 7. We resolve to organize European solidarity activities again cuts and capitalist attacks. A victory for Greek workers will strengthen resistance to the cuts elsewhere. ------- and is signed by the following (mostly small, I wonder?) parties

Grèce: Aristeri Anasynthesi, Aristeri Antikapitalistiki Syspirosi, Organosi Kommuniston Diethniston Elladas-Spartakos, Sosialistiko Ergatiko Komma, Synaspismos Rizospastikis Aristeras; Portugal: Bloco de Esquerda; Allemagne: internationale sozialistische linke, marx21, Revolutionär Sozialistischen Bund; Autriche: Linkswende; Belgique: Ligue Communiste Révolutionnaire - Socialistische arbeiderspartij; Croatie: Radnička borba; Chypre: Ergatiki Dimokratia, Yeni Kibris Partisi; Danemark: Socialistisk Arbejderparti; Écosse: Scottisch Socialist Party; État Espagnol: En lucha/En lluita, Izquierda Anticapitalista, Partido Obrero Revolucionario; France: Nouveau Parti Anticapitaliste; Grande-Bretagne: Socialist Resistance, Socialist Workers Party; Italie: Sinistra Critica; Irlande: People Before Profit Alliance, Socialist Workers Party; Pays-Bas: Internationale Socialisten, Grenzeloos; Pays Basque: Ezker Gogoa; Pologne: Polska Partia Pracy, Pracownicza Demokracja; Russie: Vpered; République Tchèque: Socialistická Solidarita; Serbie: marks21; Suède: Internationella Socialister, Socialistiska Partiet; Suisse: Gauche anticapitaliste, Mouvement pour le socialisme /Bewegung für Sozialismus, solidaritéS; Turquie: Devrimci Sosyalist İşçi Partisi, Özgürlük ve Dayanışma Partisi.

The full statement is at <http://www.npa2009.org/content/declaration-dorganisations-anticapitalistes-de-toute-leurope-sur-la-crise> - Bill

Wojtek S wrote:
> [WS:} I agree. Most of the the anti-EU vitriol seems to be more rooted in British
> insularism than anticapitalism - not that much different than attacks on Jewish
> bankers, antisemitism disguised as anti-capitalism.
>
> As far as the prospects of a pan-European revolt, or rather lack thereof, is
> concerned, I think it has less to do with the nature of the European state, but
> more to do with "civil society" or a wide array of intermediary institutions that
> link collective interests. They offer a much better prospect of bringing
> political change desired by a particular group of actors and at a much lower cost
> than a revolt. That is why revolts occurred only in countries that lacked these
> mediating structures, as aptly observed by Trotsky and Gramsci.
>
> Wojtek
>
>
> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Somebody Somebody <philos_case at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> James: Nothing short of a European-wide revolt will overthrow this malignant
>> dictatorship (which, for reasons I can't fathom, the 'Weekly Worker' seems to
>> view with too much affection).
>>
>> Somebody: Has there ever been a European-wide revolt in history? Not in 1789 nor
>> during the French Revolutionary War, nor in the Napoleonic Wars, or in 1830,
>> 1848, or 1871. The Russian Revolution sparked failed revolts in Hungary and
>> parts of Germany. The end of the Second World War produced similarly patchy
>> left-wing upsurges, that in Greece, France, and Italy were put down with Soviet
>> compliance.
>>
>> Considering how ill-suited the Westphalian system of nation-states has been to
>> spreading revolutions, why not support an even stronger European Union? It
>> amuses me that as soon as the capitalists become better internationalists than
>> Marxists ever were, the progressive content of international union suddenly
>> dissolves. The EU is what the Soviet Union *should* have done, if it really had
>> any progressive claim whatsoever.



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