[lbo-talk] Black Panther Coloring Book

Wojtek S wsoko52 at gmail.com
Mon Nov 1 06:58:50 PDT 2010


Alan: "But you are NOT taking the point. You are letting your strong aversion utterly and completely blind you to historical and geographic context while,"

[WS;} So where do they teach that criticizing the informant for not knowing what the researcher does is a valid method of sociological/ethnographic inquiry?

Wojtek

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Alan Rudy <alan.rudy at gmail.com> wrote:
> But you are NOT taking the point.  You are letting your strong aversion
> utterly and completely blind you to historical and geographic context while,
> repeatedly, making completely inaccurate invidious comparisons. If it is not
> clear by now, the Panthers were NOT infatuated with guns.  I think this has
> been shown by post after post after post. If you are aware of your negative
> predisposition to anything to do with guns then you should also be aware
> that this predisposition ought to keep you from talking about complex issues
> in the simplistic ways generated by your, now admitted, studied ignorance.
> In short, if you refuse to understand it, refuse to research it, and refuse
> to listen to people with direct experience with it the don't write about
> it... or, at least, don't write about it in a voice that is anything other
> than inquisitive.
>
> On the quote from Marx, do you really think Panther leaders hadn't read it,
> thought about it, debated it, weighed the circumstances directly found?
>
> On sanctimony, people who live in glass houses....
>
> On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Wojtek S <wsoko52 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> [WS:] I take your point.  As I said before, I was not here in the
>> 1960s and my knowledge of the Panthers is limited.  But you need to
>> understand my position as well.  I have a strong aversion to violence
>> and infatuation with guns in this country to the point that if I see a
>> man with a gun on the cover, I refuse to watch the movie.  This
>> negatively predisposes me to anything that has something to do with
>> guns.  Perhaps Carrol made  a point that it was not about guns as you
>> say, but to be honest, when he starts on a sanctimonious note, I stop
>> reading.
>>
>> Wojtek
>>
>>
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