[lbo-talk] Bill Gates as "Tea Party" supporter? where?

[Alan Rudy]

I've got way way way too much to say about this to start at 12:38AM, will
try to add something tomorrow...
Shorthand and utterly incompletely: scripts suck, but systems matter, but
you can satisfy the system w/o a script... but only if you're teaching a
reasonable load... and, sometimes worst of all, a good number of students
want/will-complain-to-authorities-higher-than-you if you fail to provide
scripted "learning."
It doesn't suck to be me, at all, but there are a bazillion contradictions
in my daily work with young minds-in-the-making (the most fun of which are
generally less young).
APR

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 7:32 PM, <123hop at comcast.net> wrote:


> I disagree that anything needs to be highly scripted and tied to grades.
>
> Yes, we all have to memorize the multiplication tables, and we all have to
> learn the alphabet; but there are fun ways even to do that.
>
> None of that is pedagogy; it is all politics.
>
> I recently reconnected with an old student from SUNY. He told me that I was
> the only college teacher he ever had that treated students as if they "were
> human beings." Now, why, on god's earth, shouldn't all teachers treat
> students like they were human beings? That process seems much more promising
> and interesting pedagogically then treating them like the makings of
> sausage.
>
> Joanna
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chuck Grimes" <c123grimes at att.net>
> To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> Sent: Monday, September 6, 2010 2:44:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Bill Gates as "Tea Party" supporter? where?
>
>
> Damn, Chuck beat me to it... Alan Rudy
>
> ---------
>
> Always my pleasure. But I'd like to hear what you and other college level
> teachers have to say about scripted and reduced curriculum at your levels.
>
> I assume there is a certain need to do that. For example, getting through
> the main principles of a science, or math topic, or a standard canon in
> art,
> literature, history, philosophy.  On the other hand, there is also a need
> to
> evoke some level of creativity, interest, and insight in students. From my
> remembrances as a student the grading and exam system was a giant inhibitor
> to learning and exploration. There was going to be a paper and exams to get
> through where the grade was essential. Grades acted like a grand punishment
> scheme. Once I could liberate myself from caring much about grades, I
> really
> started to learn on my own and in my own interested directions.
>
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Alan P. Rudy
Dept. Sociology, Anthropology and Social Work
Central Michigan University
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