[lbo-talk] the decline of men

[shag carpet bomb]

I think he probably means that, at work, an under 30 year old recently told 
me that women sucked at math and logic, and thus I shouldn't be a 
programmer. Of course, when I get off the elevator, least here in the old 
dominion, almost all the men always let me off first. I love sitting on 
that pedestal because it shonuf compensates for the fact that, when I 
pointed out that the boys always went out to lunch together and never 
invited the women (all <35, mind) they laughed at themselves in an ooops 
kinda way but pointed out that, well, gee, having a woman along would ruin 
things. and besides, a female colleague at lunch might raise suspicions 
with wives and girlfriends or cause people to start gossiping about a 
possible romance. (
this was especially funny because the three men telling me this were black, 
and there's a lot of joshing around about subtle and not so subtle racism 
and how irritated they are by it at times.) But rest assured, I'm on the 
pedestal when my boss naturally selects me to make sure we provide snacks 
for the next team building exercise. Also, uh, I perch upon and enjoy the 
pedestal when one of the other guys on my team said that, by remembering 
birthdays, I was acting like a woman which wasn't such a good idea because 
that would always make me material for, secretary, not lead engineer or a 
manager or anything. oh, and I feel especially protected when the director 
of IT regularly introduces himself to a table of people eating together by 
scanning the table, noting that I'm the only woman, and then loudly saying 
while looking directly at me, "Ladies...." in order to be so funny ha ha! 
And, of course, we have it so much easier, also, when men 35 and younger 
tell you that they can't attend a meeting or go on a group ride because 
they have to babysit their kids. no. really. The pedestal is fucking awesome.

At 06:22 PM 4/14/2011, 123hop at comcast.net wrote:
>I have no idea what you're talking about.
>
>Women empowered? To do what? Work full time and do all the house and 
>family work too?
>
>Pedestal? Are you joking?
>
>Joanna
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "John Wesley" <godisamethodist at yahoo.com>
>
>I believe that it does.
>
>Woman enjoy almost complete empowerment in all aspects of contemporary, 
>while at
>the same time still preserving their age old place on the pedastal .
>
>Mike G
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: "123hop at comcast.net" <123hop at comcast.net>
>To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
>Sent: Thu, April 14, 2011 5:05:41 PM
>Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] the decline of men
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "c b" <cb31450 at gmail.com>
>
>^^^^^
>Does this asserted advance of women in relation to men mean that
>feminism has had big successes ?
>
>------------
>
>I see no reason to discuss the superiority of one sex over the other. 
>Because,
>after all, we're meant to work together. And reciprocity is so much more fun
>than hierarchy.
>
>Joanna
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