At 12:25 PM 8/11/2011, Mark DeLucas wrote:
>So have I. And once I quite violently plowed a pedestrian as he crossed the
>street, *against the red*. But I didn't begrudge him, because as a
>pedestrian, and as a biker, I too come under the inexorable urge to "go" --
>whatever the light. And that I think explains the commons sense -- and by
>that I mean, there's few people who don't hold to it -- that a bike isn't a
>car, and that if there's nothing oncoming, then a biker should be free to
>transgress the light. I'm writing self-interestedly, but I think the
>sensible thing to do would be to judge these things on a case by case basis
>-- did the biker yield to the cars or pedestrians in his way? Did he put
>lives at risk? -- rather than enforce the law blindly. Either that or
>outlaw bicycle messaging.
>
>On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Aug 11, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Mark DeLucas wrote:
> >
> > > You might wish to avoid bicycling too, unless you have the internal
> > > fortitude to stop and wait at every red light that you come to. Because
> > I
> > > don't (and because as a bike messenger I was spending 9-10 hours per
> > riding
> > > a bike), I received in 5 months 4 tickets, valued at $190 each -- a bit
> > more
> > > than a week's wages.
> >
> > Good. I'm tired of the way bicyclists ignore traffic laws. They're
> > dangerous to pedestrians, drivers, and themselves. I've nearly been run
> over
> > several times by jackasses on bikes running red lights going the wrong way
> > on one-way streets.
> >
> > Doug
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