I think you guys may be missing the larger point, perhaps because of Grand Ayatollah Marx’s distaste for “morality”. The point being: religions are all we have. The rest is hand-waving, back-scratching, prostitution…
> PS. I think that most people (save a few die hard idealistic
> intellectuals) would prefer to be rich and live amongst selfish
> bastards than to be poor and live amongst the virtuous.
Doug said the same sort of thing years ago. This is a false dichotomy, of course… one could have sustainable wealth (i.e., neither poor, nor rich) and live among the virtuous. As a good chunk of humans do. Today.
IMHO. Fire away!
—ravi