[lbo-talk] So Real it Hurts - Notes on Occupy Wall Street

shag carpet bomb shag at cleandraws.com
Sun Oct 9 13:16:46 PDT 2011


the point was that you, doug and others who think anti-racism is way too embedded in liberal-pwog-left circles can breath a big sigh of relief. apparently, the people to whom this young woman spoke have never heard of tim wise or the need to be sensitive to language that reproduces racialization - else she wouldn't have had to take them to school on the topic.

ravi, some people think that, when white people say they hope for a race-blind (color-blind) society, that they are usually in denial of the racist social organization and social relations that currently exist.

that was a criticism of some white supporters of obama when they took up the post-race society mantle (was that it?)

others are interested in a kind of critical essentialism here and now, with the end goal possibly being some kind of dialectical overcoming. it's a little like the way the race issue divides folks at black agenda report. some of them are really into a nationalizing rhetoric (glen ford) whereas the other fellah with whom Doug is friends thinks they are a little to racializing in their language.

i'm not sure exactly how to describe her position because it's not one i'm especially familiar with. maybe write her?
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "SA" <s11131978 at gmail.com>
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> I'd say this essay is a pretty good example of Wise-ism. A histrionic
> account of how personally wrenching and painful it was for this grad
> student to have an argument in the park over how to phrase a
> one-sentence characterization of racism with some friendly guys who
> agreed with her approach after a few minutes of conversation. Getting
> this poorly phrased sentence changed: a further step in the great
> historical chain of struggles - from the abolition of slavery, to the
> decolonization of Africa, to the smashing of Jim Crow, to the great
> working-group victory of 2011. A luta continua.
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> I don't think so. Both Ralph Ellison and Richard Wright had problems
> with the CP's "we are all one race" tack. They lived long before Tim
> Wise. If consciousness, relationships, and communication is what is
> being rebuilt on OWS, then awareness of racism must be part of that.
> Racism is part of what we live with every bit as much as toxic
> chemicals in the water and air. And let me say it again: racism is not
> what the white man thinks about the brown man; it's what we all think
> about ourselves and one another after five hundred years of
> unrelenting horror.
>
> Joanna
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