I really do not understand why US lefties take position that in effect exonerate Islamic terrorism, if not being overtly sympathetic to it. It is not the first time the left finds itself with its head up its ass - French commies used to praise Pol Pot as he was slaughtering thousands. US lefties used to praise Mao as he was persecuting thousands of teachers, writers, artists and intellectuals during the Cultural Revolution. What is it? A childish desire to cut off one'es nose to spite one's face? Let's face it, the fact that the US decides to go after some murderous barbarians does not turn the latter into heroes. So let's look at the situation as it is, rather than through the lenses of the US-centered politics - these folks are barbarous murderers that need to be hunted down and killed, no ifs, no buts, no excuses.
Wojtek
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Carl G. Estabrook
<galliher at illinois.edu> wrote:
> It's surely a fascist position to assert that facts are irrelevant - or that the truth of an assertion depends on who makes it (barring certain self-referential statements).
>
> There was an American plot to take advantage of a polio drive in Pakistan, and none by Jewish bankers to secretly control Germany.
>
> --CGE
>
> On Dec 19, 2012, at 8:28 AM, Wojtek S <wsoko52 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I do not think that facts in both situations are relevant. The only
>> thing that matters is hysteria about these allegations (true or false,
>> doesn't matter) stirred up by forces that can be described as fascist.
>> That is all that matters, as it is not possible to talk with fascists
>> other than through the business end of a rifle as far as I know.
>>
>> Or let me rephrase it a bit. Suppose there had been a Jewish banker
>> conspiracy in Germany in the 1920s. Does that mean that the Nazis may
>> have had a point? Do Taliban or their ISI handlers? Or to use another
>> example, more germane for the discussion regarding the circumstances
>> of killing bin Laden - the actions of the Resistance in Nazi- occupied
>> Europe were often followed by the Nazis rounding up and executing
>> random people. Does that mean that the Nazis were right doing so,
>> since they were "provoked" by the Resistance?
>>
>> Wojtek
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Carl G. Estabrook
>> <galliher at illinois.edu> wrote:
>>> So you think that the American plot to take advantage of a polio drive in Pakistan, and the plot of Jewish bankers to secretly control Germany, are both myths?
>>>
>>> On Dec 19, 2012, at 6:28 AM, Wojtek S <wsoko52 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bill B: "Recall that there really was an American plot to fake a polio
>>>> drive in Pakistan, as part of the preparation to kill Osama Bin Laden.
>>>> The purpose of that fake polio drive was to get some dna samples from
>>>> The Bin Laden children, it seems."
>>>>
>>>> [WS:] There was also a plot of Jewish bankers to secretly control
>>>> Germany, we were once told. It seems that "Islamofascism" captures
>>>> this mentality rather accurately.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Wojtek
>>>>
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