2. Cops don't frame people? You heard of stop and frisk? You heard of for profit prisons working with judges to fill beds?
3. The administration is scandal free? You've heard about to big to fail? You've heard about mortgage fraudsters walking free? You've heard about the revolving door between Wall St and the govt?
4. You are an extraordinarily cynical man; it surprises me that you don't see the potential for corruption and abuse in the data sweep business.
5. And then there's the question of expense; with schools and infrastructure falling apart, do you think the best the govt can do with money is to spend it on this sort of operation?
Joanna
----- Original Message ----- I see no evidence of what you are talking about. Despite the vastly increased surveillance capacity, the instances of cops framing someone are rare, comparing to the past, which suggest demilitarization. Unless someone is stupid enough to brag about their illegal activities using open communication channels, which is no different than shouting about in public. They ask to be busted.
It is the critics who are becoming hysterical. this administration is remarkably scandal free, which is problem for the US political discourse that thrives on mud throwing and bombast. If they cannot find real mud, they make it up.
Sorry, but I did not intend to offend you, if I inadvertently did, I apologize.
Wojtek
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:00 PM, JOANNA A. <123hop at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> This whole brouhaha about information gathering is nothing but libertarian
> or conspiracist fantasies acting as useful idiots for Republican operatives
> trying to manufacture some shit on Obama - swift boat captains redux if you
> will. As I sad before, I am not a big supporter of Obama, but I find this
> kind of tactics quite repulsive.
> ---------
>
> I find this offensive. There is a body of law in place that says privacy
> matters. There is a growing militarization of the state that is basically
> granting it the right to do whatever it pleases, whenever it pleases, to
> whomever it pleases.
>
> The wide and arbitrary sweep of information is part of that militarization.
>
> This is not libertarian and conspiracist fantasizing, this is reality.
>
> And some people are fighting back, which takes a lot of guts.
>
> Joanna
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