[lbo-talk] [marxism-thaxis] The Financial Times on big data in China

MM marxmail00 at gmail.com
Wed Sep 6 15:20:40 PDT 2017


Carrol: Is this the paragraph you have in mind?

"Let us now picture to ourselves, by way of change, a community of free individuals, carrying on their work with the means of production in common, in which the labour power of all the different individuals is consciously applied as the combined labour power of the community. All the characteristics of Robinson’s labour are here repeated, but with this difference, that they are social, instead of individual. Everything produced by him was exclusively the result of his own personal labour, and therefore simply an object of use for himself. The total product of our community is a social product. One portion serves as fresh means of production and remains social. But another portion is consumed by the members as means of subsistence. A distribution of this portion amongst them is consequently necessary. The mode of this distribution will vary with the productive organisation of the community, and the degree of historical development attained by the producers. We will assume, but merely for the sake of a parallel with the production of commodities, that the share of each individual producer in the means of subsistence is determined by his labour time. Labour time would, in that case, play a double part. Its apportionment in accordance with a definite social plan maintains the proper proportion between the different kinds of work to be done and the various wants of the community. On the other hand, it also serves as a measure of the portion of the common labour borne by each individual, and of his share in the part of the total product destined for individual consumption. The social relations of the individual producers, with regard both to their labour and to its products, are in this case perfectly simple and intelligible, and that with regard not only to production but also to distribution."

(From Section 4, “The Fetishism of Commodities and the Secret Thereof,” twelfth paragraph)

Link: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch01.htm#S4 <https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch01.htm#S4>


> On Sep 6, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Cox, Carrol <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote:
>
> Before expanding on this post I want to read the paragraph in Capital 1 in which Marx hypothesizes a general plan for production in a given year. (With my eyes there is no way I could find it, though it's underlined & shadowed in each of my copies of Capital.) Could someone convert it to plain text & send it to me.



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