[lbo-talk] Genocide, Holocaust

Bill Bartlett billbartlett at enterprize.net.au
Mon Jun 2 01:16:30 PDT 2003


At 3:06 PM +0800 2/6/03, Grant Lee wrote:


>To rephrase the main points of my last post: (1) To
>define genocide as broadly as the UN does weakens its power as a concept

To define genocide as broadly as you assert it does, the UN would indeed fatally weaken the concept. But as I have shown and as anyone with the ability to comprehend a sentence would see, your assertion that the UN defines it so broadly is ridiculous and dishonest.


>and
>(2) In my opinion, the _main_ motivation for the "Stolen Generations" was
>not racism but the training of obedient and "productive" labour.

You are entitled to that opinion, you are entitled to dispute the assertion that taking Aboriginal children away from their parents was motivated by genocidal intent. It is after all a matter of judgement. I respectfully differ with you on that. But trying to muddy the water by dishonestly misrepresenting the official definition of genocide, doesn't deserve any respect, because it doesn't treat the intelligence of others with respect.


>This, of course, will not make any difference to your thinking because, as
>usual, you've already made up your mind, based on an intensive reading over
>many years of The Launceston Examiner, the flagships of Kerry Packer's
>newspaper empire and very little else, judging by the hot air and wind
>component in your posts to this list.

I see that you are angry that I have called you on your dishonesty. That is understandable, but what you have to understand is that I get just as angry about being treated like a fool.

I rarely read the Launceston Examiner BTW, which I think you will find is not in the Packer stable at all, but is owned by Rural Press Limited. The trouble with the Examiner though, is that it operates under the delusion that it can charge people a subscription fee to access its online version. Since I can access the major newspapers of Australia, not to mention the great newspapers of world, without charge, I an not inclined to start paying to access this petty little publication. I do buy it once a week for the TV guide though, just out of habit.

Bill Bartlett Bracknell Tas

Background:

Rural Press Limited (Chairman, Mr John B. Fairfax) publishes over 150 regional newspapers and magazines, including the Canberra Times. It has 14.9 per cent of the circulation of daily regional newspapers. The company also controls five radio licences in South Australia and Star FM in Ipswich, Queensland. The largest shareholder is Marinya Media, the private company of John B. and Tim Fairfax.

Publishing and Broadcasting Limited (Chairman, Mr James Packer) is an Australian media and entertainment company which owns the Nine Network and the magazine publisher, Australian Consolidated Press.

PBL controls three metropolitan and one regional television licences, giving it a reach of 51.5 per cent of the potential audience.

In pay TV, it has a 25 per cent interest in Foxtel and a 33 per cent stake in Sky News.

It publishes over 65 magazines and its share of the circulation of the top thirty Australian magazines is 41.5 per cent.

It has a joint online venture (ninemsn) with Microsoft Corporation. The largest shareholder in PBL is Consolidated Press Holdings (Mr Kerry Packer).

John Fairfax Holdings Ltd (Chairman, Mr Brian Powers) is an Australian publishing group. Major shareholders include Bankers Trust Australia Ltd (8 per cent) and Tyndall Australia Ltd (10 per cent). The latter two companies have their voting power limited to five per cent under foreign investment policy. The Treasurer has issued a press release on this matter. Fairfax has also been the subject of two ABA investigations with regard to its relationship with Mr Kerry Packer. In July 2001 Mr Packer's CPH Investment Corporation (formerly the FXF Trust) sold its 14.9 per cent share in Fairfax for $436 million. The buyers were said to be wide range of institutions, of which around 65 per cent were locally based. Fairfax newspapers have the following circulation shares:

21.4 per cent of the capital city and national newspaper market;

22.8 per cent of the Sunday newspaper market;

18.1 per cent of the suburban newspaper market;

15.4 per cent of the regional newspaper market.

Other Fairfax interests are AAP Information Services (jointly controlled with News Ltd), three magazines, and the Fairfax Interactive Network (online).

Source: http://www.google.com.au/search?q=cache:yvf0tNEZsz4J:infocom.cqu.edu.au/Courses/2002/T2/JOUR11005/Updates/ownership.doc+rural+press&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <../attachments/20030602/ed4e32ca/attachment.htm>



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