[lbo-talk] Grappling with Heidegger (and other responses)

joanna 123hop at comcast.net
Tue May 9 08:58:34 PDT 2006


What made Rilke degenerate?

Joanna

Chris Doss wrote:


>Althusser murdered his wife. Foucault (IIRC) knowingly
>exposed people to HIV. Therefore they must have had
>nothing good to say. Yawn.
>
>FWIW I think Heidegger was more a classical
>Mussolini-style Fascist than a Nazi. There's no
>biologism in Heidegger. In fact he argues vociferously
>against in in one of his Nietszche lecture courses, I
>don't remember which one. He was also a fan of
>"degenerate artists" such as, notably, Van Gogh,
>Rilke, and Trakl.
>
>--- andie nachgeborenen
><andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>You can wrath and contempt for Heidegger or Schmitt
>>as
>>a Nazi without thinking that this personal,
>>political,
>>and moral failing makes their thought worthless. The
>>assertion that X was a a Nazi, therefore his ideas
>>are
>>crap, is an ad hominem. Granted, being a Nazi
>>raises
>>question about one's judgment that requires
>>attention
>>to the philosophy or political thought to determine
>>whether the author's affiliations, poor judgment, or
>>wickedness irreparably damage the ideas.
>>
>>I note here that that this is not a mater of the
>>ideas
>>being wrong; being wrong is no disgrace in a thinker
>>as long as he is fruitfully wrong. But there are
>>so-called thinkers whose allegiance to vile
>>ideologies
>>makes their thought into mere propaganda, worth only
>>the historian's attention. Rosenberg, among the
>>Nazis,
>>copies to mind; lots of Stalinists too (e.g.,
>>Zhdanov), and many bourgeois economic and political
>>writers.
>>
>>
>>
>
>Nu, zayats, pogodi!
>
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